I've been trying to get this particular shade of pumpkin orange for a little while now. When I realized I had it I called all the barn chicks over to see. Rhonda said, as soon as she saw it, that it looked like a Gourdy and it stuck. I know pumpkins are not really gourds and mostly gourds are greens and browns. You have to admit, it looks like a Gourdy, doesn't it?